{"id":1164,"date":"2016-01-17T23:46:27","date_gmt":"2016-01-18T04:46:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/press.nbcnews.com\/?p=1164"},"modified":"2016-01-17T23:46:27","modified_gmt":"2016-01-18T04:46:27","slug":"transcript-4-nbc-news-youtube-democratic-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nbcuniversalnewsgroup.com\/nbcnews\/2016\/01\/17\/transcript-4-nbc-news-youtube-democratic-debate\/","title":{"rendered":"TRANSCRIPT 4: NBC NEWS-YOUTUBE DEMOCRATIC DEBATE"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Below is the final \u00a0partial rush transcript of tonight\u2019s NBC News \u2013 YouTube Democratic debate.<\/p>\n<p><strong>MANDATORY CREDIT: NBC NEWS \u2013 YOUTUBE DEBATE<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>MARTIN O&#8217;MALLEY:<\/p>\n<p>10:21:09:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Thank you.\u00a0 (APPLAUSE) Andrea, governors have led us to victory in two world wars by doing what America does best.\u00a0 And that is by joining forces with others, by acting in coalitions.\u00a0 And I believe that President Obama&#8217;s doing the right thing in this case.\u00a0 We need to learn the lessons from the past.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:21:28:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We do need to provide the special&#8211; special ops advisors.\u00a0 We n&#8211; do need to provide the technical support that over the long term, we need to develop new alliances.\u00a0 We need a much more proactive national security strategy that reduces these threats before they rise to the level where it feels like we need to pull for a division of marines.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:21:45:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And I also want to add&#8211; one other thing here.\u00a0 I appreciate the fact that in our debate, we don&#8217;t use the term you hear Republicans throwin&#8217; around, tryin&#8217; to look all bravado and macho, sending other kids tr&#8211; kids into&#8211; combat.\u00a0 They keep using the term &#8220;boots on the ground.&#8221;\u00a0 A woman in Burlington, Iowa said to me, &#8220;Governor, when you&#8217;re with your colleagues, please don&#8217;t refer to my son, who has served two du&#8211; du&#8211; tours of duty in Iraq as a pair of &#8216;boots on the ground.'&#8221;\u00a0 We need to be mindful (APPLAUSE) of the&#8211; (UNINTEL PHRASE).<\/p>\n<p>ANDREA MITCHELL:<\/p>\n<p>10:22:15:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I have a question&#8211; I have a question for Senator Sanders.\u00a0 Did the policies of the Obama administration, in which Secretary Clinton of course was a part, create a vacuum in Iraq and Syria that helped ISIS grow?<\/p>\n<p>BERNIE SANDERS:<\/p>\n<p>10:22:29:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No.\u00a0 I think the vacuum was created&#8211; by the disastrous war in Iraq.\u00a0 Which I vigorously opposed.\u00a0 Not only did I vote against it, I helped lead the opposition.\u00a0 And what happened there is yeah, it&#8217;s easy to get rid of a two-bit dictator like Saddam Hussein, but there wasn&#8217;t the kind of thought as to what happens the day after you get him, and what kind of political vacuum occurs, and who rises up?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:22:59:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Ca&#8211; groups like ISIS.\u00a0 So I think that President Obama made a promise to the American people when he ran.\u00a0 And he said, &#8220;You know what, I&#8217;m gonna do my best to bring American troops home.&#8221;\u00a0 And I supported what he did.\u00a0 Our job is to train and provide military support for Muslim countries in the area who are prepared to take on ISIS.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:23:23:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And one point that I wanna make here that is not made very often.\u00a0 You have incredibly wealthy countries in that region.\u00a0 Countries like Saudi Arabia, countries like Qatar.\u00a0 Qatar happens to be the largest&#8211; wealthiest country per capita in the world.\u00a0 They have got to start putting in some skin in the game and not just ask the United States (APPLAUSE) to do it.<\/p>\n<p>ANDREA MITCHELL:<\/p>\n<p>10:23:46:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Senator&#8211; Secretary Clinton, I wanna talk to you about red lines.\u00a0 Because former Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said in a recent interview that President Obama&#8217;s decisions to stand down on planned missile strikes against Damascus, after Assad had used chemical weapons, hurt the president&#8217;s credibility.\u00a0 Should the president have stuck to his red line once he drew it?<\/p>\n<p>HILLARY CLINTON:<\/p>\n<p>10:24:09:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Look, I&#8211; I think that the president&#8217;s decision&#8211; to go after the chemical weapons, once there was a potential opportunity to build on when the Russians&#8211; opened that door, resulted in a very positive outcome.\u00a0 We were able to get the chemical weapons out.\u00a0 I know from my own experience&#8211; as secretary of State&#8211; that we were deeply worried about Assad&#8217;s forces using chemical weapons, because it would have had not only an horrific effect on people in Syria, but it could very well have affected the surrounding states&#8211; Jordan, Israel, Lebanon, Turkey.\u00a0 So getting those chemical weapons out was a big&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>ANDREA MITCHELL:<\/p>\n<p>10:24:54:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But should he&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>HILLARY CLINTON:<\/p>\n<p>10:24:54:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8211;big deal.\u00a0 But&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>ANDREA MITCHELL:<\/p>\n<p>10:24:54:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Should he have stuck to his guns&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>10:24:56:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (OVERTALK)<\/p>\n<p>HILLARY CLINTON:<\/p>\n<p>10:24:57:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well, but&#8211; but look&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>ANDREA MITCHELL:<\/p>\n<p>10:24:57:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8211;or did it hurt U.S.\u00a0 credibility?<\/p>\n<p>HILLARY CLINTON:<\/p>\n<p>10:24:58:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I&#8211; I think as commander in chief, you&#8217;ve got to constantly be evaluating the decisions you have to make.\u00a0 I know a little bit about this, having spent many hours in the situation room, advising President Obama.\u00a0 And I wanna just add to something that Senator Sanders said.\u00a0 The United States had a very big interest in trying to help stabilize the region.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:25:23:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 If there is any blame to be spread around, it starts with the prime minister of Iraq, who sectarianized his military, se&#8211; setting Shia against Sunni.\u00a0 It is amplified by Assad, who has waged one of the bloodiest, most terrible attacks on his own people, 250,000 plus dead, millions fleeing, causing this vacuum that has been filled, unfortunately, by terrorist groups&#8211; including ISIS.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:25:54:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So I think we are in the midst of great turmoil in this region.\u00a0 We have a proxy conflict going on between Saudi Arabia and Iran.\u00a0 You know, one of the&#8211; criticisms I&#8217;ve had of&#8211; Senator Sanders is his suggestion that, you know, Iranian troops be used to try to end the war in Syria and go after ISIS&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>ANDREA MITCHELL:<\/p>\n<p>10:26:14:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Your&#8211; your ti&#8211; your time is up, Secretary&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>10:26:15:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (OVERTALK)<\/p>\n<p>BERNIE SANDERS:<\/p>\n<p>10:26:16:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8211;let me just&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>HILLARY CLINTON:<\/p>\n<p>10:26:16:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Which I don&#8217;t think would be a good idea&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>BERNIE SANDERS:<\/p>\n<p>10:26:17:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Okay, but let me&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>10:26:18:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (OVERTALK)<\/p>\n<p>HILLARY CLINTON:<\/p>\n<p>10:26:18:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8211;but overall, a lot of the forces at work in the region&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>BERNIE SANDERS:<\/p>\n<p>10:26:21:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 All right.<\/p>\n<p>HILLARY CLINTON:<\/p>\n<p>10:26:22:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8211;are ones that we cannot&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>BERNIE SANDERS:<\/p>\n<p>10:26:23:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Okay.<\/p>\n<p>HILLARY CLINTON:<\/p>\n<p>10:26:24:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8211;directly influence, but we can&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>BERNIE SANDERS:<\/p>\n<p>10:26:27:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 All right, let me suggest&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>10:26:27:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (OVERTALK)<\/p>\n<p>ANDREA MITCHELL:<\/p>\n<p>10:26:31:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Senator Sanders?\u00a0 (APPLAUSE)<\/p>\n<p>BERNIE SANDERS:<\/p>\n<p>10:26:33:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Where&#8211; where Secretary Clinton and I think&#8211; I&#8211; I agree with most of&#8211; of&#8211; of what she said.\u00a0 But where I think we do have an honest&#8211; disagreement is that in the incredible quagmire of Syria, where it&#8217;s hard to know who&#8217;s fighting who, and if you give arms to this guy, it may end up in ISIS&#8217;s hands the next day.\u00a0 We all know that.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:26:53:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And we all know, no argument, the secretary is absolutely right.\u00a0 Assad is a butcher of his own people, a man using chemical weapons against his own people.\u00a0 This is beyond disgusting.\u00a0 But I think in terms of pr&#8211; our priorities in the region, our first priority&#8211; priority must be the destruction of ISIS.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:27:14:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Our second priority must be getting rid of Assad through some political settlement, working with Iran, working with Russia.\u00a0 But the immediate task is to bring all interests together, who want to destroy ISIS, including Russia, including Iran, including our Muslim allies, to make that the major priority.<\/p>\n<p>MARTIN O&#8217;MALLEY:<\/p>\n<p>10:27:36:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But in all of that, Senator and Secretary, I think we&#8217;re leaving out something very important here.\u00a0 And that is that we still don&#8217;t have the human intelligence, overt, in terms of diplomatic intelligence, or covert, to understand even what the heck happens as the secondary and tertiary effects of some of these things.\u00a0 (COUGH)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:27:55:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We are walking through this&#8211; this region, Andrea, without the human intelligence that we need. \u00a0And we need to make a renewed investment as a country into bringing up a new generation of foreign service officers and bringing up a new generation of business people, and then actually understanding and having relationships in these places so we have a better sense of what the heck happens after a dictator topples and can take action to prevent another safe haven and another iteration of terror.<\/p>\n<p>ANDREA MITCHELL:<\/p>\n<p>10:28:23:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Your time is up.<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:28:24:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>ANDREA MITCHELL:<\/p>\n<p>10:28:25:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Lester?<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:28:25:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8211;as (APPLAUSE) Senator Sanders mentioned&#8211; Russia a moment ago.\u00a0 Secretary Clinton, you famously handed Russia&#8217;s foreign minister a reset button in 2009.\u00a0 Since then, Russia has annexed Crimea&#8211; fomented a war in Ukraine, provided weapons that downed an airliner, and launched operations, as we just d&#8211; discussed, to support Assad in Syria.\u00a0 As president, would you hand Vladimir Putin a reset button?<\/p>\n<p>HILLARY CLINTON:<\/p>\n<p>10:28:48:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well, I&#8217;d depend for what I got for it. \u00a0And I can tell you what we got&#8211; in the first term.\u00a0 We got a new start treaty to reduce nuclear weapons&#8211; between the United States and Russia.\u00a0 We got permission to resupply our troops in Afghanistan by traveling across&#8211; Russia.\u00a0 We got Russia to sign on&#8211; to our sanctions against Iran, and other&#8211; very important&#8211; commitments.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:29:15:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So look, in diplomacy, you are always trying to see how you can figure out the interests of the other, to see if there isn&#8217;t some way you can advance your security and your values.\u00a0 When Putin came back in the fall of 2011&#8211; it was very clear he came back with a mission.\u00a0 And I began speaking out as soon as that happened, because there were some fraudulent elections held, and Russians poured out into the streets to demand their freedom.\u00a0 And he cracked down, and in fact, accused me of fomenting it.\u00a0 So we now know that he has a mixed&#8211; record, to say the least, and we have to figure out how to deal with him.\u00a0 We&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:29:59:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What&#8217;s your relationship with him?<\/p>\n<p>HILLARY CLINTON:<\/p>\n<p>10:30:01:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well, my relationship with him&#8211; (LAUGH) it&#8217;s&#8211; it&#8217;s&#8211; it&#8217;s interesting.\u00a0 It&#8217;s&#8211; (LAUGHTER) it&#8217;s one I think of&#8211; respect.\u00a0 We&#8217;ve had some very tough dealings with one another.\u00a0 And&#8211; I know that he&#8217;s someone that you have to continually stand up to.\u00a0 Because like many bullies, he is somebody who will take as much as he possibly can, unless you do.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:30:32:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And we need to get the Europeans to be more willing to stand up.\u00a0 I was pleased they put sanctions on after Crimea and Eastern Ukraine, and the downing of the airliner.\u00a0 But we&#8217;ve got to be more united in preventing Putin from taking a more aggressive stance in Europe and the Middle East.<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:30:49:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We wanna turn right now (APPLAUSE) to the issue of balancing national security concerns with the privacy rights of Americans.\u00a0 That bring us to YouTube and this question.<\/p>\n<p><em>MARQUES BROWNLEE<\/em>:<\/p>\n<p>10:31:00:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Hi, my name is Marques Brownlee, and I&#8217;ve been making YouTube videos about electronics and gadgets for the past seven years.\u00a0 I think America&#8217;s future success is tied to getting all kinds of tech right.\u00a0 Tech companies are responsible for the encryption technology to protect personal data.\u00a0 But the government wants a back door into that information.\u00a0 So do you think it&#8217;s possible to find common ground?\u00a0 And where do you stand on privacy versus security?<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:31:20:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So Governor O&#8217;Malley?<\/p>\n<p>MARTIN O&#8217;MALLEY:<\/p>\n<p>10:31:21:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Thank you.\u00a0 I believe whether it&#8217;s a back door or front door, that the&#8211; that the American principle of law should still hold.\u00a0 That our federal government should have to get a warrant whether they wanna come through your back door or your front door.\u00a0 (APPLAUSE) And I also agree, Lester, with&#8211; with Benjamin Franklin, who said, &#8220;No people should ever give up their privacy or their freedoms in a promise for security.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:31:42:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So&#8211; well, we&#8217;re a collaborative people.\u00a0 We need collaborative leadership here, with Silicon Valley, and other bright people in my own state of&#8211; of Maryland, around M.S.A. that can actually figure this out.\u00a0 But there are certain immutable principles that&#8211; will not become&#8211; antique things in our country so long as we defend our country and its values and its freedoms.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:32:02:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And one of the things is our&#8211; our right to be secure in our homes and our right to expect that our federal government should have to get a warrant.\u00a0 I also wanna say that while we&#8217;ve made some progress on the&#8211; patriot act, I do believe that we need an adversarial port system there.\u00a0 We need a public advocate, we need to develop jurisprudence so that we can develop a body of law that protects the privacy of Americans in the information and digital age.<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:32:26:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That&#8217;s time.\u00a0 You have all talked about&#8211; what you would do fighting ISIS over there.\u00a0 But we&#8217;ve been hit in this country by home-grown terrorists, from Chattanooga, to San Bernardino&#8211; the recent shooting of a police officer in Philadelphia.\u00a0 How are you gonna fight lone wolves here, Senator Sanders&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>MARTIN O&#8217;MALLEY:<\/p>\n<p>10:32:42:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Okay, Lester, year in and year out, I was the leader of the U.S.&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>10:32:44:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (OVERTALK)<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:32:45:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8211;Senator Sanders, I wasn&#8217;t clear.\u00a0 I apologize.<\/p>\n<p>BERNIE SANDERS:<\/p>\n<p>10:32:47:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Okay.\u00a0 I just wanted to add&#8211; in the previous question&#8211; I voted against the USA Patriot Act for many of the reasons that Governor O&#8217;Malley mentioned.\u00a0 But it is not only the government that we have to worry about, it is private corporations.\u00a0 You would all be amazed, or maybe not, about the amount of information private companies and the government have in terms of the websites that you access, the products that you buy, where you are this very moment.\u00a0 And it is very clear to me that public policy has not caught up with the explosion of technology.\u00a0 So yes, we have to work with Silicon Valley to make sure that we do not allow ISIS to translate information&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:33:32:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But in terms of lone wolves&#8211; the threat, how do you deal with it&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>BERNIE SANDERS:<\/p>\n<p>10:33:36:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Right, what we have got to do there is, among other things, as I was just saying, have Silicon Valley help us to make sure that information being transmitted through the internet, or in other ways&#8211; by ISIS, is in fact, discovered.\u00a0 But I do believe we can do that without violating the constitutional and privacy rights of the American people.<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:34:00:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We have to go to&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>10:34:00:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (OVERTALK)<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:34:01:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We have to go to a break, but when we come back, let me get to some of the burning questions these candidates have yet to answer&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>10:34:06:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (OVERTALK)<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:34:07:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8211;to talk about.<\/p>\n<p>10:38:08:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (MUSIC)<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:38:15:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And welcome back to Charleston.\u00a0 As we were going to a break S&#8211; Secretary Clinton I&#8211; I cut you off.\u00a0 I&#8211; I&#8217;ll give you 30 seconds to respond on the issue of&#8211; lone wolves.<\/p>\n<p>MARTIN O&#8217;MALLEY:<\/p>\n<p>10:38:22:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Can I get 30 seconds too?\u00a0 (LAUGHTER) (CHEERING)<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:38:33:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Secretary Clinton.<\/p>\n<p>HILLARY CLINTON:<\/p>\n<p>10:38:36:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well, I&#8211; I wanted to&#8211; say&#8211; and I&#8217;ll do it quickly, I was very pleased that&#8211; leaders of President Obama&#8217;s&#8211; administration went out to Silicon Valley last week and began exactly this conversation about what we can do consistent with privacy and security.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:38:52:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We need better intelligence cooperation.\u00a0 We need to be sure that we&#8217;re getting the best intelligence that we can from friends and allies around the world.\u00a0 And then we&#8217;ve gotta recognize our first line of defense against lone wolf attacks is among Muslim Americans.\u00a0 And it is not only shameful, it is dangerous for the kinds of comments you&#8217;re hearing from the Republican side.\u00a0 We need to be reaching out and unifying our country against (CHEERING) terrorist attacks and lone wolves and working with Muslim Americans.<\/p>\n<p>10:39:23:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (OVERTALK)<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:39:23:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Andrea has a follow-up.<\/p>\n<p>ANDREA MITCHELL:<\/p>\n<p>10:39:25:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Just&#8211; just a quick follow-up&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>MARTIN O&#8217;MALLEY:<\/p>\n<p>10:39:26:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Andrea&#8211; Andrea&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>10:39:28:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (OVERTALK)<\/p>\n<p>ANDREA MITCHELL:<\/p>\n<p>10:39:27:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8211;for Secretary Clinton, just&#8211; just a moment, governor.<\/p>\n<p>MARTIN O&#8217;MALLEY:<\/p>\n<p>10:39:29:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8211;my 30 seconds?<\/p>\n<p>ANDREA MITCHELL:<\/p>\n<p>10:39:30:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But&#8211; but&#8211; Secretary Clinton you said that the leaders from the intelligence community went to Silicon Valley.\u00a0 They were flatly turned down.\u00a0 They got nowhere.<\/p>\n<p>HILLARY CLINTON:<\/p>\n<p>10:39:38:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That is not what I&#8217;ve heard.\u00a0 Let me leave it at that.<\/p>\n<p>MARTIN O&#8217;MALLEY:<\/p>\n<p>10:39:40:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Andrea, I need to talk about homeland security and preparedness.\u00a0 Ever since the attacks of September 11th, 30 seconds, ever since the attacks of September 11th my colleagues, Democratic and Republican mayors, Democratic and Republican governors made me their leader on homeland scrutiny and preparedness.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:39:53:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Here in the homeland unlike combating ISIL abroad we&#8217;re almost like it&#8217;s&#8211; your body&#8217;s immune system.\u00a0 It&#8217;s able to protect your body against bad bugs not necessarily &#8217;cause it outnumbers &#8217;em but it&#8217;s better connected.\u00a0 The fusion centers, the&#8211; bio-surveillance systems, better prepared first responders.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:40:11:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But there&#8217;s another front in this battle and it is this.\u00a0 That&#8217;s the political front.\u00a0 And if Donald Trump wants to start a registry in our country of people by faith he can start with me.\u00a0 And I will sign up as one who is totally opposed to his fascist appeals that wants to vilify American Muslims.\u00a0 That can do more damage to our democracy than any s&#8211; thing&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>10:40:33:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (OVERTALK)<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:40:34:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 All right, that&#8217;s time.\u00a0 And we do&#8211; we (CHEERING) do have to move on.\u00a0 Secretary Clinton, this is the first time&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>10:40:38:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (OVERTALK)<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:40:39:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8211;that&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>BERNIE SANDERS:<\/p>\n<p>10:40:40:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Can I just get a very brief response.\u00a0 Very brief.<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:40:41:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8211;thir&#8211; third seconds, Senator.<\/p>\n<p>BERNIE SANDERS:<\/p>\n<p>10:40:44:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Okay.\u00a0 One&#8211; and&#8211; and I agree with what the secretary said and&#8211; and what Governor O&#8217;Malley said.\u00a0 But here&#8217;s an issue that we also should talk about.\u00a0 We have $600 billion military budget.\u00a0 It is a budget larger than the next eight countries.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:40:59:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Unfortunately much of that budget continues to fight the old Cold War with the Soviet Union.\u00a0 Very little of that budget&#8211; less than 10% actually goes into fighting ISIS and international terrorism.\u00a0 We need to be thinkin&#8217; hard about making fundamental changes in the priorities of the defense department.<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:41:25:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 All right, Secretary Clinton, (APPLAUSE) this is the first time that a spouse of a former president could be elected president.\u00a0 You have said that President Clinton would advise you on economic issues.\u00a0 But be specific if you can.\u00a0 Are you talking about&#8211; a kitchen table role on economics or will he have a real policy role?<\/p>\n<p>HILLARY CLINTON:<\/p>\n<p>10:41:43:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well, I&#8211; it&#8217;ll start at the kitchen table.\u00a0 We&#8217;ll see how it goes from there.\u00a0 (LAUGHTER) And I&#8211; (CHEERING) I&#8217;m gonna have the very best advisors that I can possibly have.\u00a0 And when it comes to the economy&#8211; and what was accomplished under my husband&#8217;s leadership in the 90s, especially when it came to raising income for everybody and lifting more people out of poverty than any time in recent history you bet I&#8217;m gonna ask for his ideas, I&#8217;m gonna ask for his advice.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:42:18:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And I&#8217;m gonna use him as&#8211; a good will&#8211; emissary to go around the country to find the best ideas we&#8217;ve got.\u00a0 Because I do believe, as he said, everything that&#8217;s wrong with America has been solved somewhere in America.\u00a0 We just have to do more of it and we have to reach out, especially in the poor communities and communities of color to give more people their own chance to get ahead.<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:42:41:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Senator Sanders, a 30 second response (CHEERING) here.<\/p>\n<p>BERNIE SANDERS:<\/p>\n<p>10:42:49:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Great ideas.\u00a0 Governor O&#8217;Malley, Secretary Clinton.\u00a0 But here&#8217;s the truth, if you have an administration stacked with Wall Street appointees it ain&#8217;t gonna accomplish very much.\u00a0 So here&#8217;s a promise that I make, I mentioned a moment ago how corrupt the system is.\u00a0 Goldman Sachs paying a $5 billion fine gives this country in recent history a Republican secretary of treasury, a Democratic secretary of treasury.\u00a0 Here&#8217;s a promise, if elected president Goldman Sachs is not gonna have&#8211; bring forth a secretary of treasury for a Sanders&#8217; administration.<\/p>\n<p>ANDREA MITCHELL:<\/p>\n<p>10:43:29:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (CHEERING) Senator Sanders, let me ask you a question, you called Bill Clinton&#8217;s past transgressions, quote, totally, totally, totally disgraceful and unacceptable.\u00a0 Senator, do you regret saying that?<\/p>\n<p>BERNIE SANDERS:<\/p>\n<p>10:43:43:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I was asked a question, you know, one of the things, Andrea, and I&#8211; that&#8211; that question annoys me.\u00a0 I cannot (LAUGHTER) walk down the street&#8211; Secretary Clinton knows this&#8211; without being told how much I have to attack Secretary Clinton.\u00a0 Wanna get me on the front pages of the paper, I make some vicious attack.\u00a0 I have avoided doing that, trying to run an issue oriented campaign.\u00a0 (CHEERING) I was&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>10:44:11:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (OVERTALK)<\/p>\n<p>BERNIE SANDERS:<\/p>\n<p>10:44:12:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8211;asked a question.<\/p>\n<p>ANDREA MITCHELL:<\/p>\n<p>10:44:14:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You didn&#8217;t have to answer it that way though.\u00a0 Why&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>BERNIE SANDERS:<\/p>\n<p>10:44:13:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>ANDREA MITCHELL:<\/p>\n<p>10:44:14:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8211;did you?<\/p>\n<p>BERNIE SANDERS:<\/p>\n<p>10:44:15:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8211;then if I don&#8217;t answer it then there&#8217;s another front page.\u00a0 So yes.\u00a0 (LAUGHTER) And I mean this seriously.\u00a0 You know that.\u00a0 We&#8217;ve been through this.\u00a0 Yes, his behavior was deplorable.\u00a0 Have I ever once said a word about that issue?\u00a0 No I have not.\u00a0 I&#8217;m gonna debate Secretary Clinton, Governor O&#8217;Malley on the issues facing the American people.\u00a0 Not Bill Clinton&#8217;s personal (CHEERING) views (?).<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:44:38:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We will take a break.\u00a0 We&#8217;ll continue from Charleston right after this.\u00a0 (LAUGHTER)<\/p>\n<p>10:44:43:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (MUSIC)<\/p>\n<p>10:44:52:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (BREAK IN TAPE)<\/p>\n<p>10:48:54:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (MUSIC)<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:49:00:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Welcome back, everybody.\u00a0 Finally before we go tonight we set up here to understand points of differences between you.\u00a0 We believe we&#8211; we&#8217;ve learned a lot here.\u00a0 But before we leave, is there anything that you really wanted to say tonight that you haven&#8217;t gotten a chance to say?\u00a0 And we&#8217;ll start with Governor O&#8217;Malley.\u00a0 (LAUGHTER) (CHEERING) Didn&#8217;t see that coming&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>10:49:29:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (OVERTALK)<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:49:30:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8211;did you?<\/p>\n<p>MARTIN O&#8217;MALLEY:<\/p>\n<p>10:49:30:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You know what, we&#8217;re gonna have to get 20 minutes to do it.\u00a0 So (LAUGHTER) look I believe there&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>10:49:34:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (OVERTALK)<\/p>\n<p>MARTIN O&#8217;MALLEY:<\/p>\n<p>10:49:35:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8211;are many issues, so what&#8211; 60 seconds for this?<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:49:35:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sixty seconds.\u00a0 We&#8217;d appreciate it.<\/p>\n<p>MARTIN O&#8217;MALLEY:<\/p>\n<p>10:49:38:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There are so many issues that&#8211; that we haven&#8217;t been able to discuss here.\u00a0 We have not fully discussed immigration reform and the deplorable number of immigrant detention camps that our nation&#8217;s now maintaining.\u00a0 We haven&#8217;t discussed the shameful treatment that the people of Puerto Rico, our fellow Americans, are being treated with by these hedge funds that are working (UNINTEL).\u00a0\u00a0 (APPLAUSE)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:50:00:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We haven&#8217;t discussed the fact that in our own hemisphere we have the danger of nation state failures because of drug traffickers in&#8211; in Honduras and Guatemala and El Salvador.\u00a0 I guess the bottom line is this, look, we are&#8211; a great people when we act at home and abroad.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:50:15:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Based on the beliefs that unite us, our belief in the dignity of every person, our belief in our own common good.\u00a0 There is no challenge that is too great for us to overcome provided we bring forward in these divided times new leadership that can heal our divides here at home and bring our principles into alignment abroad.\u00a0 We&#8217;re on the threshold of a new era of American progress.\u00a0 And I believe we have only need to join forces together and cross that threshold into a new era of American prosperity.<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:50:40:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And that&#8217;s time.<\/p>\n<p>MARTIN O&#8217;MALLEY:<\/p>\n<p>10:50:42:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Thanks a lot.\u00a0 (CHEERING)<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:50:44:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Secretary Clinton.<\/p>\n<p>HILLARY CLINTON:<\/p>\n<p>10:50:50:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well, Lester, I&#8211; I spent a lot of time last week being outraged by what&#8217;s happening in Flint, Michigan.\u00a0 And I think every (CHEERING) single American should be outraged.\u00a0 We&#8217;ve had a city in the United States of America where the population which is poor in many ways and majority African-American has been drinking and bathing in lead contaminated water.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:51:15:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And the governor of that state acted as though he didn&#8217;t really care.\u00a0 He had request for help but he basically stonewalled.\u00a0 I&#8217;ll tell you what, if the kids in a rich suburb of Detroit had been drinking contaminated water and being bathed in it there would&#8217;ve been action.\u00a0 So I sent my top campaign aide down there to talk to the&#8211; mayor of Flint to see what I could do to help.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:51:39:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And I issued a statement about what we needed to do.\u00a0 And then I went on a TV show and said it was outrageous that the governor hadn&#8217;t acted.\u00a0 And within two hours he had.\u00a0 I wanna be a president takes care of the big (CHEERING) problems and the problems that are affecting the people of our country every day.<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:51:58:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Thank you.\u00a0 Senator Sanders.<\/p>\n<p>MARTIN O&#8217;MALLEY:<\/p>\n<p>10:52:04:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well, Secretary Clinton was right.\u00a0 And what I did which I think is also right is demanded the resignation of the governor.\u00a0 A man who acts that irresponsibly (APPLAUSE) should not stay in power.\u00a0 Now we are a great nation.\u00a0 And we&#8217;ve heard a lotta great ideas here tonight.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:52:22:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But let&#8217;s be honest and let&#8217;s be truthful.\u00a0 Very little is going to be done to transform our economy and to create the kind of middle class we need unless we end a corrupt campaign finance system which is undermining American democracy.\u00a0\u00a0 (CHEERING) We have gotta get rid of super pack.\u00a0 We have got to get rid of citizens united.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>10:52:55:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And what we have got to do is create a political revolution which revitalizes American democracy, which brings millions of young people and working people into the political process.\u00a0 To say loudly and clearly that the government of the United States of America belongs to all of us and not just a handful of wealthy campaign contributors.<\/p>\n<p>LESTER HOLT:<\/p>\n<p>10:53:20:00\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 All right, well, thank you.\u00a0 (CHEERING) And thanks to all of you for being here tonight, shedding light on some of the differences&#8211; as Americans get ready to vote.\u00a0 I also wanna thank the Congressional Black Caucus Institute and certainly my friend and colleague, Andrea Mitchell.\u00a0 This has been great.\u00a0 It&#8217;s been a great, spirited conversation a new&#8211; American people appreciate it.\u00a0 Let me turn it over to my friend, Chuck Todd, now.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Below is the final \u00a0partial rush transcript of tonight\u2019s NBC News \u2013 YouTube Democratic debate. 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